The pilot DUI report is usually the wrong answer for cabin crew

A California flight attendant arrested for DUI usually does not have the pilot style FAA 60 day report problem, because the rule people quote, 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e), applies to persons holding certificates issued under 14 C.F.R. Part 61. Flight attendants hold an FAA Certificate of Demonstrated Proficiency, not a Part 61 airman certificate, and that difference changes the first move.

Under 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e), a covered person must report a motor vehicle action within 60 days to the FAA Civil Aviation Security Division, AMC 700, P.O. Box 25810, Oklahoma City, OK 73125. Section 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(c) says a motor vehicle action includes a DUI conviction, a driver license cancellation, suspension, or revocation for an alcohol or drug driving cause, or a denial of a driver license application for that cause. That sounds broad. Not broad enough.

For cabin crew, the FAA Certificate of Demonstrated Proficiency is the key distinction, and because the 60 day motor vehicle action report in 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e) is tied to Part 61 certificates, a flight attendant has no FAA 14 C.F.R. § 61.15 60 day motor vehicle action report to file.

In California aviation DUI searches, I see the same mistake all the time: a pilot article gets applied to a flight attendant, and the person spends the first 60 days worrying about a report that does not apply while the 10 day California DMV deadline and the Canada problem get less attention than they deserve.

Your FAA certificate is not the same as a Part 61 certificate

The words matter because 14 C.F.R. § 61.15 is written around Part 61 certificate holders. Federal aviation paperwork is still real when the certificate is a flight attendant's FAA Certificate of Demonstrated Proficiency, but that is not the same certificate category used in 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e). Do not let the word "FAA" do all the work.

Right away, I separate three things in a flight attendant DUI case: the FAA certificate issue, the airline workplace issue, and the California DUI case. Usually, the FAA report answer is no under 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e). The workplace answer is different because 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b) lists "flight attendant" as a safety sensitive function, while the California court and DMV answer starts with the arrest date and the 10 day DMV hearing request.

A wrong FAA report can create a written record that was never required under 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e), while a missed California DMV hearing request can create a license problem on day 31. Different risks entirely.

Flight attendants are safety sensitive under 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b)

The fact that 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e) usually does not apply does not mean the airline side is quiet, because in 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b), the FAA lists "flight attendant" as a safety sensitive function, which means an airline's DOT drug and alcohol testing program applies to flight attendants.

Here is where cabin crew differ from many other aviation workers after a California DUI arrest. A&P mechanics and air traffic controllers have their own job structures, but the flight attendant problem usually sits at the intersection of 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b), airline policy, and international route eligibility. The DOT testing layer is not the same as a criminal court sentence. It is a workplace program tied to safety sensitive service.

After a DUI arrest in Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, or any other California county, airline questions should not be answered casually, because a statement made to an employer can be compared later with the police report, the DMV packet, or the criminal court file. Questions about an arrest, a charge, a conviction, a driver license suspension, or alcohol use are not asking the same thing.

The wording should match the actual event. An arrest is not a conviction. A California DMV action is not the same as a court plea. A 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b) testing issue is not the same as the FAA 60 day report in 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e).

The first California deadline is 10 days from arrest

In a California DUI case, the driver has 10 days from arrest to request a California DMV administrative hearing, and that deadline matters for a flight attendant because a driver license problem can affect commuting, reserve availability, airport reporting, and any job duty that depends on getting to the crew base. Often, the DMV track starts before the first court appearance.

The 10 day request is not an admission of guilt. Instead, it is a request to contest the administrative suspension and obtain the DMV discovery packet. Once the hearing is requested within 10 days, the DMV discovery packet is available on request and normally arrives before the first court date.

Outside the DMV hearing, the DMV packet can matter because it can contain the officer's DS‑367 paperwork, testing information, and the version of events that the government is using. For that reason, I want that material early in a flight attendant case because the same timeline can affect the court case, the employer discussion, and any later Canada analysis after a conviction.

The pink DS‑367 gives 30 days of full California driving

The California DMV pink DS‑367 temporary license is a full, unrestricted California driver license for the 30 days it covers if the license was valid at arrest. A chemical test refusal does not change that 30 day status. During those 30 days, the DS‑367 is not a work only license and it is not an ignition interlock license.

California DMV suspension restrictions and ignition interlock device requirements begin with the suspension that starts on day 31, not during the 30 day DS‑367 temporary license period. That distinction gets misstated constantly.

Cabin crew can use the 30 day period to make practical arrangements without guessing, and if you are based in California and commute to an airport, the DS‑367 lets you drive during the 30 days if your license was valid at arrest. The suspension issue belongs to day 31 unless the DMV action is stopped or delayed through the hearing process.

Avoid telling crew scheduling, a supervisor, or an airline investigator that you are on a restricted license during the 30 day DS‑367 period if that is not true. The DS‑367 is full and unrestricted for those 30 days under the conditions stated above. Accuracy matters.

Canada is the route problem many flight attendants feel first

Canada treats impaired driving as serious criminality after the 2018 change, so a DUI conviction generally makes a flight attendant criminally inadmissible to Canada. For cabin crew, that can be the real work consequence. Not just vacation trouble.

A flight attendant who is criminally inadmissible to Canada may generally keep working, but may be removed from Canadian routes, and airlines with heavy Canadian flying may decline to hire crew who cannot enter Canada. Pilots, mechanics, and ground staff do not all feel that employment pressure in the same way.

If a crewmember is refused entry to Canada, the crewmember is returned to the United States on the next available flight at the crewmember's own expense, which makes the issue a concrete operational problem rather than a theoretical border warning. If your schedule can include Canada, the DUI disposition matters before any bid month, pairing, or hiring decision that includes Canadian flying.

Usually, the Canada issue turns on conviction. An arrest in California is not the same as a DUI conviction. That is why I treat the criminal case result as part of the route strategy from day one.

Temporary entry and permanent repair after a Canadian bar

A Canadian Temporary Resident Permit can restore entry temporarily after a DUI. Criminal Rehabilitation is the permanent remedy and is generally available 5 years after completing the sentence. Those two remedies are not the same.

Timing matters for flight attendants because a California DUI sentence can extend the period before permanent Canadian repair is generally available, since the 5 year Criminal Rehabilitation timing runs after completing the sentence. If probation, court requirements, or other sentence terms are still open, that can affect the Canada calendar.

A Temporary Resident Permit is temporary. Criminal Rehabilitation is the permanent remedy. If your airline flies Canada regularly, I want the DUI defense to account for both the California court file and the later Canadian entry question.

That is also why a quick guilty plea can be a bad fit for cabin crew, because after the 2018 change, a fast conviction can create Canadian inadmissibility, even if the California court sentence looks routine. The sentence is only one part of the career effect.

A wet reckless under Vehicle Code § 23103.5 can matter to the flying schedule

California Vehicle Code § 23103.5 is the wet reckless statute. In some DUI cases, a reduction to a wet reckless can change how the record reads compared with a DUI conviction. It is still an alcohol related conviction, and it must be analyzed carefully for Canada, the DMV, and employer questions.

A wet reckless under Vehicle Code § 23103.5 is not a magic fix for a flight attendant. It can still have consequences. Alcohol involvement can still show. In a cabin crew case, however, every word of the disposition can matter because Canada, airline policy, and background review may ask different questions.

The goal is not to chase a label without reading the actual offer, but to understand exactly what a Vehicle Code § 23103.5 result does and does not change. A route assignment question is different from a criminal penalty question, and a hiring form may ask about convictions in its own wording.

If the evidence supports a dismissal, that is different from a reduction; if the evidence supports a negotiated reduction under Vehicle Code § 23103.5, the Canada analysis still has to be done before the plea is entered. The order matters.

Employer questions should track the exact status of the case

Airline reporting questions after a California DUI arrest can be dangerous because one event has several legal statuses. There may be an arrest, a pending charge, a DMV action, a conviction, or a dismissal. Those words are not interchangeable.

Borrowing language from a pilot's 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e) report is the wrong move for a flight attendant because that report usually is not required for a flight attendant certificate, although the airline may still have a policy question tied to safety sensitive work under 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b). Answer the question asked, not the question from a different aviation job.

For example, a California DMV suspension for an alcohol driving cause is a "motor vehicle action" under 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(c) for the people covered by Part 61. That does not turn a flight attendant into a Part 61 certificate holder. The definition and the covered population are two different parts of the rule.

I also separate what is known from what is assumed. If the arrest happened on a Friday night in California and the DMV hearing request is still inside the 10 day window, the case is in a different posture than a conviction after a plea. While the DS‑367 is still within its 30 days, the driver license status is different than it will be on day 31.

The documents I want preserved before the first court date

A flight attendant DUI file should be built around the arrest date, the 10 day DMV deadline, the 30 day DS‑367 period, the day 31 suspension date, and any airline document that asks about arrests, charges, convictions, testing, or driver license status. Those dates and words drive the early decisions.

The pink DS‑367, the citation, any release paperwork, any DMV hearing notice, and any airline or union communication that mentions 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b) testing or safety sensitive status should be preserved. I also want the exact job question before any written answer is sent. One misplaced word can make an accurate DUI timeline look inconsistent.

The DMV discovery packet is also useful if the 10 day hearing request was made. It normally arrives before the first court date when requested, and it can show what the officer wrote on the DS‑367. The court case and the DMV case are separate, but the facts often overlap.

Preserve bid records, pairing records, hotel records, rideshare receipts, phone location data, and messages from the day of arrest. I am not stating a special aviation rule there. I am saying that a California DUI defense depends on the timeline, and a flight attendant's timeline often includes airport travel, report times, layovers, and commute details.

Record cleanup after probation under Penal Code § 1203.4

California Penal Code § 1203.4 allows dismissal of a DUI related conviction after successful completion of probation. In ordinary conversation, this is often called expungement, but the statute uses dismissal language. It is a court remedy after probation is successfully completed.

Penal Code § 1203.4 does not erase the need to answer every future airline or border question carefully, and a dismissed conviction under Penal Code § 1203.4 may still need to be disclosed if the question asks in a way that reaches it. Exact wording matters.

For a flight attendant, Penal Code § 1203.4 can still be valuable because employment paperwork, background review, and later licensing or credential questions may ask about the current status of the case. A dismissal after probation gives a more accurate and complete answer than leaving the old conviction standing without the later court order.

Penal Code § 1203.4 is not the Canadian permanent remedy. Criminal Rehabilitation is the permanent Canadian remedy and is generally available 5 years after completing the sentence. A California dismissal and Canadian admissibility are two different systems.

The order of decisions for cabin crew after a California DUI

The first decision is the California DMV hearing request within 10 days of arrest, then protecting the 30 day DS‑367 status and planning for day 31, then sorting the employer and DOT testing issues under 14 C.F.R. § 120.105(b). Finally, avoid the wrong FAA 60 day report under 14 C.F.R. § 61.15(e) when the certificate is a flight attendant Certificate of Demonstrated Proficiency.

The Canada issue should be assessed before any DUI conviction is entered, because after the 2018 Canadian change, a DUI conviction generally makes a person criminally inadmissible to Canada. For a flight attendant, that can mean removal from Canadian routes, trouble with hiring at airlines with heavy Canadian flying, or return to the United States on the next available flight at the crewmember's own expense if entry is refused.

The criminal defense should be built with those facts in mind. A dismissal, a reduction under Vehicle Code § 23103.5, a conviction, and a later dismissal under Penal Code § 1203.4 do not create the same answer for every aviation, DMV, employer, or Canada question. The paperwork matters because cabin crew live by paperwork.

Primary sources

California statutes cited in this article, linked to the official text published by the California Legislature.